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		<title>Comment on The sale of MEN by louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Underpressure It&#039;s not my intention to criticise the journalists working under very difficult conditions for TM papers. On the contrary, they are doing an extraordinarily good job under the circumstances, a testament to their dedication to the job in the face of being ever expected to do more with less. 

My fear for the quality of the MEN under TM is not to do with the journalists working there but the fact that over the last year the quality of local reporting has already dipped heavily thanks to the swingeing job cuts. If the MEN moves to Oldham I seriously worry how some places will get covered - it was bad enough when the local papers had their staff moved into the centre instead of staying on their patch. How will areas like Sale get covered if the hacks are right over the other side of Greater Manchester? Carolyn McCall did suggest a couple of days ago that now the MEN had been sold she expected to see further job cuts there. That can only impact further on the amount of news being reported. 

Of course I don&#039;t expect MEN readers to all suddenly switch to the radio. My point, though, is that many may seek alternative places for their news if the MEN no longer reports on their patch. 

And I totally agree about Channel M - the local joke is that only half a dozen viewers watch it, assuming they can even find it on the channel scanner. I don&#039;t think anyone really understands why so much money - literally millions - has been wasted on it. And for what? That cash could have been used to support the MEN and the local weekly titles during the last couple of very tough years. I find that immensely sad, when so many good journalists have been made redundant but a shit TV station that no one is interested in watching continues to suck up funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Underpressure It&#8217;s not my intention to criticise the journalists working under very difficult conditions for TM papers. On the contrary, they are doing an extraordinarily good job under the circumstances, a testament to their dedication to the job in the face of being ever expected to do more with less. </p>
<p>My fear for the quality of the MEN under TM is not to do with the journalists working there but the fact that over the last year the quality of local reporting has already dipped heavily thanks to the swingeing job cuts. If the MEN moves to Oldham I seriously worry how some places will get covered &#8211; it was bad enough when the local papers had their staff moved into the centre instead of staying on their patch. How will areas like Sale get covered if the hacks are right over the other side of Greater Manchester? Carolyn McCall did suggest a couple of days ago that now the MEN had been sold she expected to see further job cuts there. That can only impact further on the amount of news being reported. </p>
<p>Of course I don&#8217;t expect MEN readers to all suddenly switch to the radio. My point, though, is that many may seek alternative places for their news if the MEN no longer reports on their patch. </p>
<p>And I totally agree about Channel M &#8211; the local joke is that only half a dozen viewers watch it, assuming they can even find it on the channel scanner. I don&#8217;t think anyone really understands why so much money &#8211; literally millions &#8211; has been wasted on it. And for what? That cash could have been used to support the MEN and the local weekly titles during the last couple of very tough years. I find that immensely sad, when so many good journalists have been made redundant but a shit TV station that no one is interested in watching continues to suck up funds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The sale of MEN by Under Pressure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Under Pressure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who works for a Trinity Mirror newspaper, I recognise a lot of the complaints you say you&#039;ve heard, but I do take offence at your suggestion that just because the MEN is owned by Trinity, it won&#039;t be a solid product. Despite the staff cuts, I still think the paper I work on does a very good job and the other papers I see, such as the Liverpool Echo, also still look as though they do an excellent job. I used to work for another regional publisher and compared to them, Trinity does invest in new kit and equipment. At least where I am now they&#039;ve made an attempt to push through some sort of multimedia journalism training with equipment. It&#039;s far from rosy in Trinity, but the assumption that the sale of the MEN will lead to an inferior product doesn&#039;t take into account the determination of journalists to work well in all circumstances. As for MEN readers switching to the radio, I think that&#039;s a big leap to make without much evidence to back it up. Perhaps the real focus of your fury should be channeled into looking at where all the profits from the MEN went, and it wasn&#039;t just back to the Guardian. At the end of the day, Trinity closed papers which weren&#039;t making money. The Guardian kept alive a TV station which was losing a lot of money, damaging a newspaper which was still making money in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who works for a Trinity Mirror newspaper, I recognise a lot of the complaints you say you&#8217;ve heard, but I do take offence at your suggestion that just because the MEN is owned by Trinity, it won&#8217;t be a solid product. Despite the staff cuts, I still think the paper I work on does a very good job and the other papers I see, such as the Liverpool Echo, also still look as though they do an excellent job. I used to work for another regional publisher and compared to them, Trinity does invest in new kit and equipment. At least where I am now they&#8217;ve made an attempt to push through some sort of multimedia journalism training with equipment. It&#8217;s far from rosy in Trinity, but the assumption that the sale of the MEN will lead to an inferior product doesn&#8217;t take into account the determination of journalists to work well in all circumstances. As for MEN readers switching to the radio, I think that&#8217;s a big leap to make without much evidence to back it up. Perhaps the real focus of your fury should be channeled into looking at where all the profits from the MEN went, and it wasn&#8217;t just back to the Guardian. At the end of the day, Trinity closed papers which weren&#8217;t making money. The Guardian kept alive a TV station which was losing a lot of money, damaging a newspaper which was still making money in the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by And boo to you too &#171; Rosie Niven</title>
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		<dc:creator>And boo to you too &#171; Rosie Niven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a journalist working at BBC Manchester and another Twitter evagelist, last week wrote about how Twitter helped her get into work when her travel plans were hit by the recent [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by And boo to you too &#171; Rosie Niven</title>
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		<dc:creator>And boo to you too &#171; Rosie Niven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a journalist working at BBC Manchester and another Twitter evagelist, last week wrote about how Twitter helped her get into work when her travel plans werer hit by the recent [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by One month of doing hyperlocal at SR2 Blog&#160;&#124;&#160;JoshHalliday.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>One month of doing hyperlocal at SR2 Blog&#160;&#124;&#160;JoshHalliday.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] inclement weather conditions are a boon for local news publishers (as Louise Bolotin&#8217;s week is also testament to). Four out of the five most-visited posts are snow-related, three are genuinely resourceful [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] inclement weather conditions are a boon for local news publishers (as Louise Bolotin&#8217;s week is also testament to). Four out of the five most-visited posts are snow-related, three are genuinely resourceful [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by Sarah Booker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Booker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s during time like this (snow) that local papers can attempt to compete with radio in terms of as-it-happens news online and through social media. 
Unfortunately the attitude of senior management has turned toxic towards the newspaper websites in the group I work for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s during time like this (snow) that local papers can attempt to compete with radio in terms of as-it-happens news online and through social media.<br />
Unfortunately the attitude of senior management has turned toxic towards the newspaper websites in the group I work for.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by links for 2010-01-09 &#171; Sarah Hartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-01-09 &#171; Sarah Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why local news will always matter &#124; Here&#039;s the Kicker An internal memo at the BBC on Thursday indicated that page impressions on the various regional news hubs on the BBC website had rocketed up to 23-fold, while figures for radio and TV audiences tuning in for local coverage had also gone through the roof. (tags: hyperlocal local news bbc weather) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why local news will always matter | Here&#39;s the Kicker An internal memo at the BBC on Thursday indicated that page impressions on the various regional news hubs on the BBC website had rocketed up to 23-fold, while figures for radio and TV audiences tuning in for local coverage had also gone through the roof. (tags: hyperlocal local news bbc weather) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, Twitter was a fantastic (as always) resource first thing on Tuesday morning when the local transport hubs simply failed to let people know what was happening on the ground. One tweeter even offered to pop outside and see what buses were passing his house so I&#039;d be able to get to work! Otherwise only Radio Manchester and the MEN website were working like dogs to keep people updated. My feeling is we&#039;ll see quite a few hyperlocal TV stations popping up in the near future. Manchester already has East Salford Direct (hope I got the name right), which does video newscasts in its neighbourhood - you can find them on YouTube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, Twitter was a fantastic (as always) resource first thing on Tuesday morning when the local transport hubs simply failed to let people know what was happening on the ground. One tweeter even offered to pop outside and see what buses were passing his house so I&#8217;d be able to get to work! Otherwise only Radio Manchester and the MEN website were working like dogs to keep people updated. My feeling is we&#8217;ll see quite a few hyperlocal TV stations popping up in the near future. Manchester already has East Salford Direct (hope I got the name right), which does video newscasts in its neighbourhood &#8211; you can find them on YouTube.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pem, I&#039;ll be the first to admit that until very recently I rarely listened to local radio news. In my defence, I was living and working abroad from 1991 to early 2004 and when I came home, lived several years in a city with no local BBC station and only a piss-poor local commercial station. I only just started tuning into Radio Manchester in mid-December when I found I&#039;d be going there. This week has really underscored for me how important quality local radio is. The amount of rolling updates Radio Manchester provided to the city was staggering in both volume and detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pem, I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that until very recently I rarely listened to local radio news. In my defence, I was living and working abroad from 1991 to early 2004 and when I came home, lived several years in a city with no local BBC station and only a piss-poor local commercial station. I only just started tuning into Radio Manchester in mid-December when I found I&#8217;d be going there. This week has really underscored for me how important quality local radio is. The amount of rolling updates Radio Manchester provided to the city was staggering in both volume and detail.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why local news will always matter by louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nell. The reason I&#039;m at Radio Manchester is because my background is pure print (and online now, too) and I&#039;ve also never worked in a proper newsroom (I&#039;m a feature writer) so the idea is to give me those experiences and skills. I couldn&#039;t have picked a better week to be thrust into a major radio newsroom and see just how it all works. It&#039;s been a real education, I can tell you. I&#039;ve been incredibly impressed by everyone&#039;s dedication to serving the city and it was great to be part of it, even though my contribution on Tuesday was very small. I&#039;ll be blogging every so often on my inFUZE experiences so do stay tuned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nell. The reason I&#8217;m at Radio Manchester is because my background is pure print (and online now, too) and I&#8217;ve also never worked in a proper newsroom (I&#8217;m a feature writer) so the idea is to give me those experiences and skills. I couldn&#8217;t have picked a better week to be thrust into a major radio newsroom and see just how it all works. It&#8217;s been a real education, I can tell you. I&#8217;ve been incredibly impressed by everyone&#8217;s dedication to serving the city and it was great to be part of it, even though my contribution on Tuesday was very small. I&#8217;ll be blogging every so often on my inFUZE experiences so do stay tuned!</p>
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